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Jul 02, 09 at 10:21am
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geez, who knew that this was such a sensitive issue. people bitching over nothing in my opinion - just dont buy the damn thing and get an alternative product


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Jul 02, 09 at 10:25am
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I'm not switching to anything because some guy researched it and found if I learn a whole new thing I'll type 2 words more per minute or what ever.

As is a few people told me I type fast. So I'm happy with Qwerty for now.


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Jul 02, 09 at 10:26am
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well lenovo was just enlargening one or two of their keys. thats why im surprised. why make a big deal out of that?



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Jul 02, 09 at 10:37am
re: Changing keyboard layouts

My keyboard has an enlarged delete button, plus rearranged Home/End and Page Up/Down. I do notice the difference quite a bit, you can blindly hit it without looking and know what you're pressing. The large delete key also makes it easier to work out which surrounding key you're pressing by feeling for the delete key, which speeds up their use too.

Insert gets lost to another part of the keyboard, but that's no major loss.

Never thought I'd use the scroll wheel on the keyboard either, but found myself trying to scroll on the keyboards at work


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Jul 02, 09 at 10:39am
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"Don't try to fix something that isn't broken"

I dont mind if they move around a few of the non-letter keys, most laptops already do that. One of my laptops has the delete key between the ctrl and left arrow keys. They shouldnt waste their time on making a new arrangement of letters though. Everyone already knows how to operate qwerty, and it works just fine.


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Jul 02, 09 at 10:42am
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ever tried going from a US keyboard to another one? took me about 4 months to get used to the swedish keyboard. [ and ] are actually the other two variants of the A, and where ; is, is the second variant of the O. so the letters are roughly in the same place, but other characters are just...everywhere, and i have the fact that i have to use the alt gr key.


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Jul 02, 09 at 2:27pm
re: Changing keyboard layouts

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well lenovo was just enlargening one or two of their keys. thats why im surprised. why make a big deal out of that?
I thought it was about different keyboard arrangements. Just enlarging a key though... yeah I don't see why you need to make a deal out of it.

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It may seem like a small change, but David Hill, vice president of corporate identity and design at Lenovo, points out, "Any time you start messing around with the keyboard, people get nervous."
Like that. All they did was make a key larger. D:


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Jul 02, 09 at 2:44pm
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well god help us if manufacturers of mice go for one large button...thered be riots!



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Jul 02, 09 at 4:35pm
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The solution is in the future of touch-screen integration to allow swapping between layouts on demand, rather than having a layout in the form of fixated plastic keys. Allowing a quick swap between QWERTY, Colemak etc. will slowly allow the gradual transition to more efficient layouts, while not forcing older generations to change. Eventually, as users of QWERTY become the minority, QWERTY will be an option rather than default, until eventually removing it completely.

And as noted in the article, the Caps Lock key is useless and annoying, and I've been calling for its removal for years. I've already disabled it in regedit.
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Jul 02, 09 at 4:43pm
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*bleep* THEM ILL NEVER LET THEM TAKE AWAY MY CAPSLOCK



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Jul 02, 09 at 4:44pm
re: Changing keyboard layouts

I don't blame Lenovo in making the keyboard changes. Whatever helps that will sell more laptops (due to keyboard configurations) will easily be done by a manufacturer.

As for being a user that requires these different keyboards... I would just force myself to re-learn. Not like it's a big deal or anything to me as a user.


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Jul 02, 09 at 4:45pm
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If Caps Lock isn't going away, it sure as hell better be moving closer to where the Insert and Print Screen buttons are... I'm so sick of hitting it by mistake. Especially while gaming.

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Jul 02, 09 at 4:47pm
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I use CAPS Lock alot at work (more often than the other keys: Home, End, and Insert). Also, Delete needs to be in a better place. I don't like that it's bundled up with those home, end, insert keys.


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Jul 02, 09 at 4:52pm
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Everyone wants something different, which is why touch-screen keyboards are such a hot topic. The layout would be user-customizable.

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Jul 02, 09 at 4:54pm
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Caps lock should just be moved to another location, maybe swap it around with the Tab key. This is my keyboard, and it works perfectly for me.

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Allowing a quick swap between QWERTY, Colemak etc.
What is the colemak layout?

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The solution is in the future of touch-screen integration
Touch screen keyboards will have their pros and cons. I think we had a thread about this somewhere a while back. My only complaint about a large touchscreen keyboard for a desktop is, it would be hard to find the keys accurately with out the various bumps and groves and feel of each key.


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